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  • Tom Glason
  • 05 Feb 2026

Making The Grade Podcast: What it really takes to win in the US – Honest lessons from Natalie Johnson

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US expansion is one of the fastest ways for a venture-backed SaaS company to accelerate growth…

…or blow up months of momentum, burn a painful chunk of cash, and leave a trail of “scar tissue” behind.

 

In this Making the Grade episode, Tom Glason sits down with Natalie Johnson, a seasoned revenue leader who’s lived the 1 to 10 million ARR journey multiple times – across the UK and the US – and now leads revenue at one of Europe’s fastest-scaling AI companies, AutogenAI.

 

In this episode, Natalie unpacks what actually works when expanding into the US, why outbound still works and why AI is not an IT rollout but an organisational transformation that rewires how modern revenue teams operate. 

 

If you’re scaling through the messy middle and considering the US leap, this one’s packed with battle-tested guidance you can apply immediately.

📚 Episode Chapters:

01:15 – Lessons from two scaling journeys
03:12 – US expansion mistakes
16:26 – Navigating the messy middle
26:08 – Autogen AI’s Growth Engine 
30:46 – Outbound strategies that actually work
35:34 – Hiring Revenue Leaders in 2026

🎧 Continue listening…

Make sure you listen to Season 1: Sean Williams – From $60m exit to building an er-defining AI company

Want to listen to the full episode with Natalie?

 Listen here: 

🎙️ Apple Podcasts 

🎙️ Spotify 

🎙️ Simplecast

 

Or watch below…

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